I have to come back on to leave another comment as I am still so over the moon with these jeans. I am 60yrs old and have been battling with the idiotic skinnys for 2yrs and was talked into trying a pair by my daughter and I just cant say enough great things. They are comfy , amazingly stylish and have opened up doors to other tops and jackets that I can now wear, no more long tops to hide the muffins that we ladies often get. I am saving hard now for capris and all the other goodies on offer. thanks Jo and Phil for great personal customer service.